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Nancy Koebel's avatar

I have long admitted that back in the hysteria of 2020, I volunteered to be part of the Moderna vaccine study. There is a location in Beachwood, and I go periodically for follow ups. I entered in Aug. of 2020, got the 2 shots, and made 1 or two other visits before Jan. of 2020 when the vaccine got the EUA. At that point I had no clue as to whether I had the real or placebo vaccine. Because it was approved, they revealed to us our status (I did have it, and suspected so because of 2 exposures earlier and did not get it. I participated because I wanted to return to normal, and also was going on a cruise in 2021 so needed it for that anyway. The study is finally ending in September. But I have to check in still through an app until then on my health status. Three times I had allergy attacks that I thought could be covid, one back in March of 2020 before the shut down, one in Feb. 2022, and again in May. The symptoms have evolved so much that now literally an allergy attack can be suspect covid. In Feb., because I was getting ready to travel by plane to Florida, I self tested. Negative (used an Abbott BiNax test). In May, I had a dental appointment and the symptoms, so I used one of the free post office tests, that came out positive. No tests were reported. I distrusted the May result and cancelled the appointment but went to the wedding. It turned out several other relatives did get covid around that time. I was hoping a blood donation would reveal if I had it, but they stopped testing before my donation. I went to my doctor for a test but it just showed my vaccine immunity. I'm not going to stress about it, but when you can't tell allergies (nasal discharge, drainage, and coughing) from covid it's time to stop obsessing about this. None of the relatives at the wedding were hospitalized, and several were more elderly than I and had co-morbidities. We need to stop the mass testing, the reporting, the masking, the weekly reports. Time to move on. By the way, Yahoo is reporting a new Omicron super-variant in the US (coming from India) that is even more immune resistant. OH NO!

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SeeingTruth's avatar

Thank you for sharing your story and your willingness to move on.

It sounds like you have concern about other variants. May I gently suggest checking out this site run by doctors who successfully treat cv, as well as helping the v injured, to look at how people are boosting their immune systems and taking preventative steps to mitigate getting the virus. I know both unvaccinated and vaccinated who do either all or part of these.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/

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Nancy Koebel's avatar

I worry less about myself than certain family members. My two sons are unvaccinated and will remain so. My daughter's family is another thing, all vaccinated and she still sometimes wears masks. That's why I worried about attending the wedding, but it seemed the in-laws were having their own super spreader event!

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SeeingTruth's avatar

Omg they just can't give up the 6' randomly pulled number bs. That said, so interesting the changes! Noticeably absent...all the case reporting criteria., symptomology tiers. Wondering if all of that "info" is buried somewhere else.

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Kathryn Huwig's avatar

Good question, if so, I wouldn't know where.

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The awake epidemiologist's avatar

Your last point is the most crucial one. Most of the mania is already done. People have already decided they are going to live the rest of their lives in fear. You wonder if that would even change of Dr. Vanderhoff went on live TV and said "that's it! you can move on with your lives now!"

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SeeingTruth's avatar

Re if Dr V went on tv and said "that's it", it may impact some and I fear the 18% will never let go...empathy for their fear constriction.

As an aside, did you see Mayim Bialik's response to her bout with cv:

"I'm feeling a whole bunch of regret that I ever took my mask off ever in the world, like even outside" the former Blossom star said. "I'm feeling a lot of fear. Why did I ever go out? Why did I think that anything was fine ever?"

Sad...

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Kathryn Huwig's avatar

Wow. That's just so sad.

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SeeingTruth's avatar

Yes...considering she's a PhD scientist even more so. Thankfully I'm married to one who gets it.

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Joni's avatar

I have no doubt politics is driving this change. He and his complicit Health Department are still guilty of all the elderly deaths in nursing homes! First, from the isolation, neglect and putting covid patients in the nursing homes, and second, forcing the jabs on them. I’ve been advised of patients dying by 60% as soon as they were administered the jab! Not weeks later, but a week! They tried to notify DeWine’s office about what was happening and they couldn’t get a response! He knew he couldn’t keep Ohio in lockdown without the elderly deaths to justify his sick logic! Plus they were very successful with the FEAR campaign because just look at all the sheep running around with their masks and who can’t wait to go get their boosters. You can’t even engage with these people. They are that freaked out! My husbands side of the family are all brainwashed! I know this statement will offend some, but I can’t imagine injecting myself with something untested just so I could travel! I value my life and that of my family much more than a vacation. Apparently the people injecting themselves without a thought have never had adverse reactions from medications or other vaccines. I am glad I did at a very young age. It made me challenge everything and do my own research. I knew early in 2020 this was all a plandemic and made to make everyone cow tow to their dictates! I don’t do well with any mandate when it comes to my health and that of my family, especially when it defies all past history and common sense. Plus what they did to Ohio’s children and college kids is just infuriating. I can’t believe so many parents didn’t yank their kids out of college and sue them for abuse when they locked them up in old dorms, without sufficient food and water. I could go on with the crimes against humanity caused by Dewine against Ohioans. We also know if Whaley gets in it will be even worse! They are a sick bunch!

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SeeingTruth's avatar

DeWine could have been a "hero" and promoted early treatment options. Will never forget in one of the earlier wine with DeWine he said that "they", implying the medical community, were learning how to treat cv and therefore it would be better to delay getting it as long as possible. I suspect he was talking about off label drugs that we all know about. He could have done a lot of things differently and, if he was truly interested in saving Ohioans luves as was his daily mantra, he missed to boat.

Virtually everyone I know did not get the shot for health reasons, rather all societal convenience. No words....

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Joni's avatar

He could have been, but is compromised and part of the deep state depopulation plan! What’s amazing is that so many doctors are pushing the jab on people with existing conditions that NEVER should have taken it. Everyone we know who had cancer in remission is getting it back tenfold. My nephews in law age 27 just had a massive stroke and will never function normally again. Double jabbed and boosted. She has a 3 month old and 3 year old. Cleveland Clinic refuses to consider this was the cause! They have found nothing else that caused it. Our medical community for the most part is complicit in all this and can never be trusted again. When I see transplant patients being forced to take the jab or they cannot get the transplant, we know this isn’t based on good medical advice, but deadly advice. The good thing is that we have some integrative doctors and chiropractors who really get it! They see what the overall medical community is doing to injure and kill people! Someday these complicit doctors will stand before God and answer to their crimes against humanity.

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SeeingTruth's avatar

So sorry to hear about all the injuries going on! People just aren't/can't/won't put it together...it's a lot to process. Including the medical community. Some I believe are completely brainwashed, others know and do nothing. There was an interesting Canadian FOIA request that gave some insight into it. A chain of emails discussing potential injury and one dr said they looked in VEARS and since the US wasn't seeing any signals the v must not be the cause. Zero critical thinking. I have a nurse friend who works in the wards at the clinic - a strange, rare, aggressive cancer case - she brought up the shot to the dr, who at least didn't dismiss it, but said maybe but they didn't know. My father-in-law is v injured - everyone clueless. Si many v injuries, including deaths, in my circle. As a trained scientist, all the pisses the shit out of me.

I have an ND out of state who can perscribe and saved my life. My approach is to "use" the western medicine tests, as well as tests they don't do, and pursue alternative.

Saw today the first denied transplants suits are starting. Including...one kidney transplant patient who had the transplant prior to this mess and needs follow up care which is being denied because didn't get the shot.

You may be interested in these substacks:

- midwestern doctor - fascinating integrative guy

- Colleen Huber - ND from Az

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SeeingTruth's avatar

Assuming you know about this, if not, may be something to stay updated on

Medical Right to Refuse - An Ohio Constitutional Ammendment

https://www.medicalright2refuse.com/about

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Joni's avatar

Yes, thank you! I was going to reach out about getting signatures for it! This is important after what we have seen happen. Who knew how far we would digress in our State and Country.

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SeeingTruth's avatar

I got signatures for another bill effort...things unfortunately weren't organized well, so hopefully this will be smoother!

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Joni's avatar

I agree. I was going to get signatures, but held off because I could see they were trying to turn it around too quickly and not reviewing it properly. I know this is a massive undertaking, but I was not close enough to lend Diana a hand on it. I didn’t want to go for signatures if it was going to repeat itself over and over, which is what happened. I know some of it was out of their control, and they had never done something like this, but I didn’t want to lose credibility with the people I was going to get signatures from. Now, I hope to be able to help with the efforts since 500,000 signatures is going to be quite an undertaking.

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Pam Connery's avatar

I'm on a survey panel as someone self-employed in the health field. Many of the questions as of late have been my thoughts on COVID and how it affects my work, every day life, purchasing preferences, candidates etc...I always say it's over we need to move on. If I hear a candidate still talking about it I will be sure to not vote in their favor. This is great news! Hopefully my answers have helped lessen the hype and hysteria.

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Maureen ODH's avatar

My sister has a high school graduate beginning OU this fall. All freshmen are required to stay in dorms. All dorm residents must be fully “injected”…. Up until now my sisters family, 4 children has lived in literal kovid hell, any sniffle, hay fever symptom, cough subjected to 14 days isolation and quarantine… someone in the family was always “punished” with a kovid diagnosis locking everyone down because they were legitimately cautious NOT to be pressured into an experimental inadequately tested EUA concoction. Ohio does appear to be supporting personal medical rights choice once again, but not the colleges and universities.

Their 18 year old is unreachable, as to refrain from studies until amendments written to support medical freedom fully informed consent are signed and sealed into law. I’m beyond furious. The university’s student recruitment media should read and sound exactly like all pharmaceutical ads with the announced so fast you can barely grasp the list of side effects including death! “Come to OU (fill in any college pushing this clot shot) fully inoculated required, the risks and side effects include permanent irreversible heart, liver and neurological diseases and in some cases SADS” How absurdly insane completely unconstitutional this country’s supposedly educated university’s have become….. right in lockstep with a once free, sovereign United Republic. Comment on this! Help parents!

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Chad E.'s avatar

Taking down from the website is like changing marketing tactics. I am confident that the state can and will continue with questionable policies when they deem necessary. And as long as the federal government continues the state of emergency, tries to segregate due to vaccination status, and tries to force me from employment, I do not feel safe.

Not sure what to make of Dewine. I am certainly not satisfied with him and would prefer someone who opposes the federal COVID response (e.g. Desantis). I want someone to expand my rights, not take them away. What I am afraid of is the democratic candidate winning and our state now drives the federal COVID agenda, opinions, and controls.

Does this make Dewine our best shot at maintaining our rights?

Thank you Katherine for creating this platform.

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Katie Marino's avatar

I believe that is what DeWine wanted all along- voluntary compliance by as many entities as possible, so that he can really turn the screws once reelected.

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Scott's avatar

Not even a mention of paxlovid for treatment, just remdesivir? It's like they're not paying any attention anymore either.

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